GM 2021 - Yes, No or Maybe?

Big Jeff knows something...

https://twitter.com/BigJeffJohns/status/1415775719481921537?s=19

It's being able to leave the site that I'm hoping for more than any particular act.

I like to imagine Walter sat somewhere watching the clock, paw hovering over a big red button labelled 'GREEN MAN GO LIVE'

Go on then, who's making the clashfinder

well, that's the most underwhelming line-up of all time

but i'm stil very happy to be going!

and there doesn't seem to be anything about not being able to come and go from the site:

"To gain entry to GM this year, anyone over the age of 16 will have to demonstrate that they’ve received two vaccinations at least 14 days before arrival or show that they’ve received a negative NHS lateral flow test within 48 hours prior to their arrival."

also, rollovers are possible:

"We totally understand that some people may not feel ready to return this year, so if you have tickets and don’t want to attend, please contact Ticketline to arrange a refund or rollover to 2022"

Thanks Joseph that's the main worry removed.

Glad to see the rollover option included. I think that's what I'll be doing. 

Settlers won't be the same without the trips into Crickhowell and Abergavenny. 

All things considered, not an awful line up. Gonna be gutted to miss Surfing Magazines, Hen Ogledd, Richard Dawson, Gruff. 

Fucking Covid. Fucking johnson.

TBH if any festival is going to be safe to attend it'll be Green Man. And I love the line up considering what they had to work with. I already see a three way headliner clash on the Sunday. Teenage Fanclub are going to prevail, of course! 

I think that's a reference to the fact that the NHS Covid Pass is an England thing- those of us in Scotland and Wales have to make the alternative arrangements as described. If you're in England you can presumably just show the NHS Pass.

question: what's going to happen with the far out?

are they going to take the sides off?

maybe they won't need to - but not sure how comfortable i'll feel jammed in there if they don't

but if they do, how do they manage the sound bleed?

Green Man have said on Facebook that chai wallahs will be there

THank you lovely Green Man organisers for giving us the rollover option for next year,  

Think this has been added to the FAQs in the last hour or so. The second paragraph answers the question about ventilation in Far Out and other tents.

WHAT COVID-19 PRECAUTIONS WILL THERE BE?

There is no need to distance or wear a mask anywhere on site, but if you are more comfortable wearing a face covering please feel free to do so. Please also be aware that everybody feels different emerging from this pandemic and respect other people’s feelings.

There will be increased hand washing and hand sanitizing stations around the site. We are stepping up the sanitizing of surfaces and high touch points around the site. You will probably notice there are a few less walls on the marquees this year to increase ventilation.

Incredible work GM getting this together with such uncertain parameters.  I honestly don't know how you've managed to organise it.  I'd completely written it off and was ready to take back the holidays I had booked, but it's go after all!!

I understand people having reservations (and between now and then the UK government wider relaxation of restrictions still puts it all in doubt) but I think anyone who meets the vaccination criteria with tickets should try their damnedest to get along in support of GM after what has been unprecedented times for the live music and festival industry.  If Walter can get it together, I will be there.  I don't give a shit about line-up or tent/sound considerations.  I care about this festival and the local area.  They both will have suffered massively by last years cancellation and floods.  I don't know how the town will feel about the news it's going ahead, but given the requirements for all attendees on site (and leaving/re-entering the site) I hope it represents limited risk but significant and welcome gain.  We're, by and large, a responsible bunch and I've everything crossed we're getting together in a months time!

Anyone know whether the Bridge End Inn might be in with a shout of reopening by then? I'll miss sitting in their beer garden on the Wednesday afternoon if not. 

They really have handled this very well, great that they can allow people to rollover to next year. For various reasons I'm going to do that. Hope those that go have a blast, I look forward to hearing reports.

for those feeling concerned about covid safety - and that included me - i'm copying and pasting this reply to a similar worry that someone posted over on efestivals

i found it pretty reassuring!

though, of course, we don't know what's going to happen with the new beta variant...

anyhow, FWIW (and many thanks to ben, the original poster):

You've not said so, but I'm assuming that you're both double vaccinated.

Well...where do I start?!

The problem is, it's a hugely personal issue, and what's right for one super fit double-vaxxed 60 year old is anathema to another. In terms of 'actual risk' - the risk of serious illness requiring hospitalisation for double-vaxxed, healthy (no co-morbidities) people in the UK is incredibly low - reduced by 91-96% by virtue of vaccination. Can you still catch delta? Yes, you can. Will you if someone has it at GM? Possibly. Will you get sick? - almost certainly not. Will you get very sick? - almost definitely not. On that basis, for me, the risk is entirely acceptable (and I'm a bit younger, but my COVID risk stratification would be very similar to yours).

My next door neighbour tested positive yesterday. He's 73-74 and in decent health. Double-vaxxed. He's 'fine'. Fine to the point that if I was 'only' that ill (cold-like symptoms) at Green Man, I'd still be having a good time.

I have zero concerns for myself in going. I expect to behave pretty much exactly as I would in 'normal' times - remember, everyone must be negative or double-vaxxed, so the volume of circulating virus in the festival will be very, very low - including dancing to KLO and Overmono in Far Out in a sweaty, techno-addled mess. I will, of course, respect others' needs there, but similarly if someone wants a hug at 2am, I will likely give one. 

Not to give these Tory fuckers an inch, there is personal responsibility integrated into getting through this, so long as you're kind and respectful.

Typically verbose response, but short answer is, if you're vaccinated and feel fine about going, the risk of anything significant befalling you, or those around you, is extremely small. See you down the front.

I agree with that Ray. I'm 45, I'm overweight but in general decent health and I've had both vaccinations. I'm going to have a mask and hand sanitizer with me at all times in case I need them but generally have no worries about attending.

The majority of the festival is outdoors and the tents this year will be well ventilated. I was wondering about how the locals in Crickhowell feel about it going ahead but the business owners interviewed by the BBC can't wait for us to get there and spend money. 

The results of test events are also reassuring. 

I'm more worried about camping than catching Covid.